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Page scope

Parvati Valley is the Growing Area page for the basin of the Parvati from the Pin Parvati Pass to its junction with the Beas at Bhuntar, less the Malana side valley, which joins it at Jari ("the Malana joins the north bank of the Parbati at Jari", Kangra gazetteer of 1917) and is documented as the Malana Valley. The basin figure of 1,938 km² in the lead (Sharma et al. 2021) includes the Malana catchment. The villages have their own Locality pages (Grahan, Pulgi, Rasol, Chalal, Kalga, Jari), as do the Pin Parvati Pass and the Rasol Pass. Parbati Valley and Manikaran Valley redirect here.

Data verification

Quotations below: sources accessed 28 September 2026, except the colonial sources on archive.org (Kangra 1917, Diack 1897, Lyall, Harcourt, Moorcroft, the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission), quoted from the full text as accessed 31 August 2026 (for Dane's year, from the page images), and the water-quality study and Chandrasekharam et al., accessed 27 September 2026. Record source conflicts and decisions on scope here. Keep narrative content on the article.

Discussion

Source discrepancies

The article gives the union of what the sources say, each detail attributed. Where they conflict:

• Retreat of the Parbati glacier. The district's hazard profile: "massive glacial retreats at the rate of 178 m/ year in Parbati Glacier of Kullu district has been observed during 1962 to 2000" (p. 12). It names no study; the passage ends "(Annexures II)". No annexure is in the 18-page PDF, while other data in the profile carry a "Source:" line. Kulkarni et al. (2005), from satellite data of 1990 to 2001: "the glacier had retreated 578 m between 1990 and 2001, almost 52 m per year. This rate of retreat was confirmed by field observations of glacier terminus in October 2003." The two figures cover different periods. The article gives both, the first with "without naming a study"; it reconciles neither.
• Bareonah elevation. ZOM-IND-HIM-1020220004 (Lapas 'Bareonah' Selection 2022) stores elevation = 2,025. The collection documentation for the same lot: "Lapas 'Bareonah' Selection (2022) Notes: Selected by Éloïse from the isolated 'Bareonah' fields Type: Selected domesticate landrace Altitude: 2500-3000m"; it describes Bareonah as "an isolated valley north of Lapas and Gargi". The 2,025 m value is the lowest of the 58 Zomia accessions and sets the infobox minimum and the article's "2,025 to 3,179 m at Lapas". The infobox keeps the accession range; this conflict is recorded here, not harmonised. The accession page is not yet corrected (see Accession data below).
• Parla Thatch: Gohar or Rasol; its height. ZOM-IND-HIM-0920220025 stores descriptive_name = Gohar 'Parla Thatch' Selection 2022, locality = Gohar, appellation = Gohar and elevation = 2,976, but its bold lead reads "Rasol 'Parla Thatch' Selection 2022". The collection documentation lists the lot among Rasol's: "Rasol 'Parla Thatch' Selection (2022) ... Altitude: 3200-3500m". It describes Parla Thatch as "The highest-altitude growing site, sitting at 3200m and extending into the upper Parvati Valley toward Choj". The collector's index lists "Rasol 'Parla Thatch' Field" under Rasol and "Gohar Village" under a separate Gohar heading. The article gives the field among Rasol's fields from the documentation and "2,976 m for the Parla Thatch field recorded under Gohar" from the accession page.
• The riverside field at Grahan. The collector's index: "Grahan 'Riverside' Fields [Eradicated in 2024]", with its key "[Eradicated] – Confirmed destroyed by enforcement". The collection documentation: ample seed stock "with the exception of riverside plots, which were largely lost due to new road construction in 2024". ZOM-IND-HIM-0920220013 stores cultivation_status = Eradicated and eradication_date = 01/09/2024, which SMW reads as 9 January 2024. The article gives the index tag with its definition and the documentation's road, side by side; it reads the accession date as 1 September 2024.
• 2022 accessions with 2023 collection dates. Nine accessions from Grahan, Pulgi and Thunja (ZOM-IND-HIM-0920220011 to 0018 and 0920220114) are named "... 2022" and store sample_harvest_date = 2022, but store collection_date from "07/09/2023" to "14/09/2023". A diary post on the walk "from Kasol" to Grahan is dated 8 September 2022 ("Some pictures from the 9km trek up to Grahan from Kasol."); it dates the post, not the walk. The collection documentation gives "Sourcing: Eloise (2022, 2023, 2024)". The article states the dates and the harvest year and does not choose. SMW also reads six of these dates month first (0011 as 9 July 2023, 0012 as 9 August, 0014 and 0114 as 9 October, 0015 as 9 November, 0016 as 9 December), so the table's Collected column contradicts the article's "7 to 14 September 2023" until the pages carry ISO dates or a template-side fix (a new Module:Accession date) goes live. The Chanderkhani accessions had the same defect; their year is 2022. These nine are not yet corrected (see Accession data below).
• A 2025 accession with a 2024 harvest. ZOM-IND-HIM-1120251700 is named "Grahan Village General Population 2025" and collected 28/10/2025, but stores sample_harvest_date = 2024; its own text describes seed "collected from female plants ... throughout the 2025 growing season". The article's "18 more were collected in October 2025" is true either way.
• Pini: Parvati Valley or Malana Valley. The page was created on 29 April 2026 as "Bhelang Sharn (appellation)", "(provisional name) ... an appellation in the lower Malana Valley", with growing_area = Malana Valley. It was moved to Pini (appellation) on 13 May 2026, keeping Bhelang Sharn as its other name. The collector's index lists "Pini [Eradications Ongoing]" directly under "Parvati Valley" (read 27 and 28 September 2026). The 2011 Census enumerates a village Pini (012881) in Kullu sub-district and the Kullu block, with Jari and Manikaran. The growing area follows the index; the appellation page was changed at rev 20479 and this article's status sentence names Pini. The appellation keeps its infobox point (32.048, 77.225); where that point lies against the two catchments was not examined here; the valley boundaries in Module:Boundaries are to be re-derived after the move. No source read ties Pini to the resurvey's Malana sub-division "Bhelag" or the Tribune's "Bhelang" (2019), whatever the likeness of the names.
• Hybridisation. All 58 Zomia accession pages store perceived_introgression_level = Minimal. The collection documentation warns of hybridisation for the same places: the index describes the valley as "known for high-density charas production and ongoing hybrid pressure"; Lapas: "Increasing tourism and hybridization threaten its genetic purity"; Rasol: "external hybrid genetics pose a serious risk to the survival of the original Rasol landrace"; Tosh: "The introduction of hybridized commercial cannabis is also an emerging concern". The article quotes the index's warning in its lead and the others in Conservation status; it does not report the accession field. Adding it, attributed, would complete the union.
• The September 2022 operation. The Tribune: the Central Bureau of Narcotics "destroyed cannabis plants on 12,900 bighas (1,032 ha) of forestland in Kullu district in a two-week operation". ETV Bharat: "करीब 3 सप्ताह" (about three weeks) and "13,000 बीघा" (13,000 bigha). The article gives both.
• Planting and harvest. The collection documentation: "Regional Planting: February - April" and "Regional Harvest: September - November" at Grahan; spring, with September to November or October to November, at Lapas, Rasol and Tosh. The Zomia accession pages: sowing March to May, harvest September to December; one Coco Genes line (COC-IND-HIM-0120180001-R1), late September to early November. Tribhuvan dates the forest burning for new plantations to "the months of February and March" (p. 513). The article gives each.
• Rasol and its fields. The documentation puts the village "at 2600m above Chalal" and Vairam at 2,600 to 2,900 m; the accession pages give 2,277 m for the village site and 2,933 m for Vairam Top; the photograph in the infobox is captioned on its file page as the Vairam fields "at 3000m+". Set out on Talk:Rasol; the article's infobox caption names no height.

Recorded 28 September 2026.

Reading notes on the sources

• Louis Dane's year. The article gives no year for the two men Dane sent over from the Chandra side. The 1917 gazetteer, which the article cites, was read in OCR only, where the 2026-08-31 transcription has "1888". The page image of the 1899 imprint (Diack1897, Spiti part, p. 110) reads: "In 1883 Mr. Louis Dane sent two men to explore this route from Chandra side, and they came out at Tos in Kothi Kanáur of Wazíri Rúpi". Dane's own diary of his crossing, printed in the same volume (Appendix II, pp. 124–126), was "submitted by Mr. L. W. Dane, C. S., in August 1884". Restoring "In 1883", cited to the 1899 imprint, is an optional follow-up.
• Anderson's evidence. The article says "Evidence published by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission in 1894" and "wrote in evidence printed by". The Commission's first volume dates Anderson's Kulu findings to 1880 ("Mr. Anderson (10), however, ascertained in 1880 that the area in Kulu and Plach was then about 200 acres", ch. IV §111); his text reads as written from Kulu ("who have come up here on pilgrimage"). Whether the quoted passages are his 1880 memorandum printed with his 1893 evidence is not established; the article's wording holds either way.
• Waziri Rupi. "In the colonial revenue divisions the valley was the waziri of Rupi" rests on the gazetteer of 1897 (an appendix caption, "Parbati Valley, Waziri Rupi, Kulu") and on Lyall, who placed "the right side of the Parbatti valley up to the mouth of the Malauna gorge" in Waziri Parol. Harcourt's "the Parbuttee valley in Wuzeeri-Rupi" (1871, p. 291) is quoted in the History section. Lyall describes Kulu as containing "three great divisions, viz. Waziri Parol, Lag, and Rupi"; he did not make the divisions. The article no longer says "divided".
• Bhuin and Bhuntar. The 1917 gazetteer puts the confluence "at Bhuin (six miles below Kulu)"; the water-quality study puts it "at Bhunter (1096m)". No source read says the two places are one, so the article gives both without equating them.
• Trebeck. The passages on the Parbati and Mani Karn (Vol. I, pp. 177–179) are printed in the Travels in quotation marks as an extract from George Trebeck's journal, introduced on p. 171, so the article attributes them to Trebeck, not Moorcroft. He writes "Little is known here of the course of the Parbati" and describes a road "to a place called Mani Karn"; nothing quoted shows that he went there, so the article says "wrote" and "described", not "found". The article quotes "maintained at the expense of the Raja", which attaches the Raja's expense to the rest-house as the source does ("A dharma sala, in which pilgrims are lodged and fed, is maintained at the expense of the Raja").
• The rest-houses "on the Manikaran road". The 1917 gazetteer's sentence reads "the former has forest rest-houses at Bhuin, Jari and Pulga and a civil rest-house at Manikaran"; that "the former" is the Manikaran road is the 2026-08-31 transcriber's bracket, not checked on the scan.
• The gazetteer of 1897, pp. 79 and 112. Both page numbers come from the OCR running heads of the 2026-08-31 read; the page images were not checked.
• Kheerganga. Chandrasekharam et al. write "Khirganga"; the article uses Kheerganga, the wiki's form, which the collection documentation also uses ("Pulga, Tosh, and Kheerganga").
• Hand-rubbed. The word is the collection documentation's ("traditional charas (hand-rubbed hashish)"); Tribhuvan does not use it. The article attributes it to the documentation.
• One guesthouse owner. Tribhuvan describes one middleman who would "buy charas in bulk from producers and sell it in units of tolas (10 grams) to tourists who stayed in his guest house", then generalises only this far: "For most guesthouse owners, selling charas was an equally important part of their business" (p. 509). The article keeps that scope. It does not name Tribhuvan's fieldwork villages or informants; the paper gives no statement on whether its names are pseudonyms.
• The devta's ban is on p. 514 of Tribhuvan (running head "514 Tribhuvan"). An earlier note that gave p. 511 was wrong; Kullu District was corrected at rev 20298.
• Missing foreigners. The Tribune's "around 20 foreigners have gone missing in the past three decades" follows the Parvati Valley in its lead, but its basis is Kullu police data for the district since 1990; its latest case went missing from Manali. The article says "in Kullu district".
• Words given to the right speaker. The PTI report of June 2026 narrates O. P. Sharma's operations and states, without quotation marks or a "he said", that "Foreigners penetrated the Parvati Valley with hybrid foreign cannabis seeds"; the sentences on either side report Sharma's views. Neither is a direct quotation of Sharma. The article attributes both to the report. The Tribune's 2017 "drug mafia" report concerns "heroin, cocaine and smack"; the article says so.
• The October 2023 operation. The Tribune writes that the police "reportedly found 2.83 lakh cannabis plants"; the report does not say they were destroyed. The article says "found".
• Kutla fields. The collector's index lists "Grahan 'Kutla' Fields", "Thunja-Kutla Fields" and "Tosh Lower 'Kutla' Fields [Eradicated in 2005]" / "Tosh Upper 'Kutla' Fields [Eradications Ongoing]". The lead's "Kutla fields" link to Tosh Kutla (appellation); the Traditional cultivation photograph shows the Grahan Kutla fields and says so.

Recorded 28 September 2026.

Decisions on scope

• admin_2 = Kullu District: [[Kullu]] is the town.
• [[Beas River|Beas]] is the link form for the river.
• Jari is linked; its page now exists.
• Chalal, Kalga and Rasol are Localities and the Pin Parvati Pass a pass page; all are now live.
• Lapas and Gohar link to their appellation pages.
• regional_complex = Hindu Kush-Himalayan. ZOM-IND-HIM-1120251700 still stores Himalayas (protected page).
• The twelve Coco Genes lines now store this growing area and appear in the accessions table; the village each names is listed in the article.
• Jamlu and the Narcotics Control Bureau: each is to have a page, and each is linked at its first occurrence; the Central Bureau of Narcotics with them.
• Pini: see Source discrepancies.
• Elevation range: the Zomia collection range, 2,025 to 3,237 m, with the Bareonah conflict recorded above. Since the Coco Genes lines were added, the accessions table also holds a Coco Genes line from Tosh (COC-IND-HIM-0120210002) at 2,000 m, below the infobox minimum and outside the lead's range; not yet reconciled.
• area_extent: left empty. The sources give the basin (1,938 km²), not a cultivated extent.
• Wording: "collection documentation" for the collector's product pages stays family-wide.
• Scope: see Page scope.
• Coordinates: 32.01, 77.37, the mean of the accession points (57 of the 58 Zomia accessions carry one). It is a map centre about 2 km south of Lapas, not a named place.
• Rainfall: minimum and maximum both 1,405 mm, the water-quality study's figure, which that study takes from a groundwater report of 2013 for the whole district.
• other_names = Parbati Valley, Manikaran Valley. The redirects exist (28 September 2026). The Tribune's 2019 report of the police view speaks of "Parbati and Manikaran valleys" as two.
• The Nepali-labour paragraph stays in Demography, with the officer's framing, that the charas trade used Nepali labourers for smuggling, kept beside his 30 per cent figure. One of its three sources, the Tribune of 2019, speaks of the state, not the valley.
• The missing-foreigners sentence and the Hydropower subsection stay.
• Block. The article gives the 2011 Census (Kullu block) and the accession pages (Bhuntar tehsil and block) without a citation for the Bhuntar block. The zila parishad notice of May 2025 cited on Malana Valley places Jari, Kasol and Manikaran in a Bhuntar-block ward and could be cited here too; that delimitation was cancelled on a court's direction; the 2026 re-delimitation names no block.
• Colonial wording stays quoted and attributed: Harcourt's "Hindoo temples" and "even from Madras!", Anderson's "bairagis and the fakirs".

Recorded 28 September 2026.

Accession data

The following discrepancies on the accession pages are recorded here and not yet corrected:

• The collection dates, the Bareonah elevation, the Parla Thatch filing and the 2025 harvest year above.
• ZOM-IND-HIM-0920220019 ("Rasol General Population 2022") stores accession_type = Selection and 0920220020 ("Rasol 'Village' Selection 2022") General population, the reverse of their names.
• The 2022 Vairam selections are filed under Vairam (appellation); the 2025 Vairam lots (ZOM-IND-HIM-1020250001 to 0003) under the Rasol appellation with field = Vairam. ZOM-IND-HIM-1020250002 stores its elevation as 2500, without the separator its siblings carry.
• ZOM-IND-HIM-1020250002 ("Rasol Pawan Selection 2025") and 1020250003 ("Rasol Maya Selection 2025") store accession_type = General population against their names.
• ZOM-IND-HIM-1020250012 has no collector and 1020250013 no coordinates.
• The accessions table links each Has locality value: Gohar, Lapas and "Tosh-Kutla" (stored by the eight Tosh Kutla accessions; not the canonical form) are red links; COC-IND-HIM-0120210001 stores "Lapash".
• The feral selections are given low priority except the Tosh feral selection of 2022 (0920220030), given medium; the article says so.
• The Elevation column of the accessions table prints "m;1meter;1meters;3.28084ft;…" after each figure. Property:Has elevation was changed at rev 20343; the stored unit string had not changed on 28 September 2026.

Recorded 28 September 2026.

Update, 28 September 2026

Added after the page was created:

• The Zomia-GrowingRegions access date (not listed under Decisions on scope above). The key first carried an access date of 31 August 2026. The article's citation of the collector's index carries access-date=27 September 2026, the date used for the whole Kullu family. A check on 27 September found every tag the article reports on the index as read that day, but the Rasol village and Vairam tags and the index sentence the lead quotes ("known for high-density charas production and ongoing hybrid pressure") nowhere in the record of 31 August. The same date was set on Kullu District, Grahan and Pulgi on 27 September (revs 20338 to 20340) and on five pages created on 28 September, corrected at revs 20377 to 20381.
• Pini on the index: two readings on 27 September. One reading of that day reported that the name Pini did not appear anywhere on the collector's index. Other readings of 27 September and a copy of 28 September all show "Pini [Eradications Ongoing]" directly under "Parvati Valley". The placing of Pini in this growing area rests on that reading; the first reading should not be relied on.
• Stage II of the Parbati project: two NHPC pages. The Stage II page: "पावर स्टेशन को अप्रैल 2025 में वाणिज्यिक संचालन के लिए घोषित किया गया है।" (the power station was declared for commercial operation in April 2025), with commercial operation dates of 1 April 2025 for units 1 to 3 and 16 April 2025 for unit 4. The Stage III page, read the same day (27 September 2026), still describes the second stage as "पार्बती-।। जलविद्युत परियोजना (निर्माणाधीन)" (Parbati-II hydroelectric project, under construction). The article takes Stage II's status from the Stage II page and leaves out the Stage III page's description of it as under construction.
• Siddu and sidhu. The article's siddu comes from the survey of the Manikaran valley, where hemp seeds "are used as a flavoring agent and for making local dish Siddu" (Rathore et al. 2018, p. 128). Tribhuvan's general introduction on Himachal Pradesh has the seeds made into "spicy chutney to be had with local bread made of fermented rice called sidhu" (2018, p. 505). No source read says whether the two spellings name one dish; only Tribhuvan describes it. The article follows Rathore and does not describe the dish.
• Labels in the collection documentation. The product pages' summary blocks give "District: Sosan District" (Grahan), "District: Sosan" (Tosh and Lapas) and "District: Bhuntar" (Rasol); the Tosh page also gives "Appellation: Rasol". Sosan is a census village (012884) and Bhuntar a tehsil and block. The article uses none of these labels.

Recorded 28 September 2026.

Sources not used and why

• A paper on pilgrimage tourism at Manikaran (ShodhPatra, vol. 1, no. 11, November 2024) is not used, because parts of it may be fabricated. Its literature review carries a sentence about another country: "On the other hand, this expansion of pilgrimage tourism in southwestern Ethiopia led to several opportunities and challenges which have been extensively well explained by recent literature." Two journals in its references, Sikh Studies Quarterly and Himalayan Tourism Journal, are not found by a Crossref journal-title search. Its census figures for Manikaran match the 2011 Census, which the article cites directly. It should not be cited.
• Glacier and basin studies not read. Three studies with Crossref records were not read: Ahmad et al. (2017) on glacier change in the Parbati valley; Srinivasalu et al. (2024) on glacier volume and mass in the Parvati basin; Biswas (2016) on the basin's morphometry. The publisher's pages sat behind a login and the open copies tried did not load. No figure from them is used. A search for the study behind the hazard profile's 178 m a year found none; a 2006 conference paper by Kulkarni's group (doi:10.1117/12.694004) is a candidate, not opened.
• Dam sites and height. en.wikipedia names Pulga as the site of the Stage II dam and Suind as that of Stage III; it gives the Stage II dam as 83.7 m high. None of the three appears on NHPC's pages for the two stages (searched in Hindi and Roman forms), so the article gives none of them.
• The Great Himalayan National Park and Khirganga. The article mentions neither. The district's disaster management plan of 2018 places the national park in the Banjar sub-division: "The Great Himalayan National Park, Banjar Sub Division, is helping in conserving the flora and fauna of the western Himalayan Environment" (§2.5.6). No source read puts the Parvati valley inside the park; a search-engine summary that did could not be traced to a source. The notification year and area commonly given for a Khirganga National Park rest only on en.wikipedia and aggregator pages.
• A district-wide charas estimate. A figure of about two tons of charas a year for Kullu district in the mid-1990s is known here only at third hand, through a quotation of Chouvy citing Clarke (Chouvy's site could not be reached on 27 September). Not used.
• The Khanorni forest. A Tribune report of 26 August 2024 on about five lakh plants destroyed in the Khanorni forest, under the Shillihar patwar circle of the Bhuntar subdivision, is not used: no source read places that forest in the valley.
• Not reached. ThePrint's ground reports of 2026 on the valley and its report on villagers destroying plants "on deity's command" returned a challenge page each time. Dilaram Shabab's Kullu: Himalayan Abode of the Divine and Surindar Singh Kohli's Travels of Guru Nanak, both cited by en.wikipedia on Manikaran, were not read. Suchibrata Roy's thesis (2022) and article (2025) on Israeli backpackers in Himachal Pradesh could not be read: the repository restricts the thesis and the publisher's page refused the request. Trek operators' pages for the height of the Pin Parvati Pass and travel sites for the road distance from Bhuntar to Kasol were not used as sources.

Recorded 28 September 2026.

How the border is drawn

• Where this border meets the Western Himalayas border or the border of a neighbouring growing area, the two share one line, drawn once.