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Evidentiary scope
The slips place cannabis in the desert at the Inder hills, on sheets of a series dated 1855. They give no date of collection, no use and no note on cultivation. A single gathering does not establish a landrace or a continuing population. The accession is classified Other and no conservation priority is assigned.
Label reading
Read twice, independently, from the holder's image (3582 × 5276 pixels). The second sheet (MW0818725, 3572 × 5252 pixels) carries the same printed label.
- Printed label (both sheets). Императорскаго Московскаго Университета. / Gremiatschensky, S. J. Die Pflanzen der Bukejewschen Kirgisen-Horde. 1855. / (Ryn-Peski Sanddünen, Gross. Bogdo, Bisch-tau, Jakschi-bisch-tau, Arsagar, Baskuntschatskoje-See et cet.)
- MW0818724, slips (ink, one 19th-century hand). Cannabis sativa L. / mont. Inder.; and Cannabis / sativa / Desert. Neither slip is tied to one of the two plants.
- MW0818725, slip. Cannabis sativa L. / Deserto / M. Inder.
- Small's slips on both sheets: Cannabis sativa L. / E. Small, Canada Agriculture, Aug. 1975.
- The place. The first sheet's mont. Inder was read once as Juder or Inder, its looped capital being I or J; the second sheet's slip reads Inder in both readings and settles it.
- The stamped numbers 64785 and 64784 near the barcodes are registration numbers of the herbarium. A pencilled 1973 in the corner of each sheet is not used.
Georeferencing
The point 48.50, 52.00 is the point at which the Russian Wikipedia maps the Inder hills (Индерские горы), 48°29′47″ N, 51°59′55″ E, given in the 2 dp form. It is a map point for the hills, not the middle of a mapped area: OpenStreetMap has no outline for them, only the salt lake Inder (way 25957729), which the hills border on the north and north-east, about 7 km south-west of the point. The same page describes the hills as exposed over several tens of kilometres, and the uncertainty covers that extent. The point falls in Inder District, Atyrau Region; SRTM gives 29 m, on ground that rises to 150 m. The slips name the hills and no spot within them. Basis: district point. Uncertainty: about 20 km.
Editorial treatment
Two sheets, one accession. The sheets share the printed series label and slips naming Inder in the same hand; they are taken as one gathering, which the sheets do not state. MW0818724 is the infobox image; both are shown under Sheets.
Date. 1855 is the year in the series' printed title. The collection date is left empty and the title says by 1855.
Place and country. The series covers the Bukey Horde's lands between the Volga and the Ural, and two of its listed places, Bogdo and lake Baskunchak, lie in Russia today, so the printed label alone does not fix the country; the slips' Inder hills do. The hills lie on the border of Atyrau and West Kazakhstan regions, so no region is entered.
Collector. The collector field takes the printed form S. J. Gremiatschensky. No source read for this page gives his full name, which is not linked.
Source discrepancies
- The catalogue dates both sheets 1855, the year of the printed series title; the sheets give no date of collection.
- The catalogue gives no locality; the slips name the Inder hills.
These notes were recorded during accession preparation. Source citations remain in the article. Éloise 09:02, 12 October 2026 (+07)