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Talk:Creepy (cannabis)

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Creepy (cannabis) covers the Colombian product name creepy (cripy, cripi, cripa): its spellings, what growers, researchers, the police and the press say it covers, its dated appearances, the places it is reported from, its prices, and its use in Chile and other countries the marijuana reaches. The growing hubs carry the wider history of marijuana in each place: Northern Cauca and its appellations, Ariari, Provincia de Ocaña, Rovira and Chile.
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Sources and how they were read

  • Cruz Olivera and Pereira Arana (2021). The Dejusticia book was read in its PDF; the printed page numbers match the PDF pages. Used: p. 58 and its footnote 7 (the seed dealer's account of La Quebradiza; an interviewee's account of creepy as a generic name and its kinds), p. 76 (treatment admissions), pp. 85–87 (crosses distributed in the early 2010s; the native varieties given up; the police characterisation and Table 5, whose source is Ciena 2017, p. 6, with prices for 2016). The interviewees appear in the book under names that may not be their own, so the article does not name them.
  • Granados and others (2024), the CAPAZ policy brief, p. 3.
  • Truth Commission (2022), Colombia adentro: Valle y norte del Cauca, p. 194, which cites Semana (2018) for its paragraph on creepy.
  • Indepaz (2024), p. 27, note 63.
  • Press. El Tiempo (13 January 2016; 15 March 2021), Semana (20 October 2018), La Opinión (26 March 2016), Diario Occidente (5 July and 13 September 2013) and the El Colombiano investigation republished on its blog Revelaciones del bajo mundo (23 November 2017) were read in full.
  • Pachón, "Marihuana de Corinto: Cien por ciento campesina", was read in the copy on the Indepaz site. It carries no date; the file sits in the site's folder for March 2012 and the text refers to a Californian vote on legalisation "a few months" earlier, so it was probably written in late 2010 or 2011. It is cited undated.
  • Police statements. Policía Nacional, 16 January 2015 (Ábrego) and 23 November 2017 (Rovira), read in full.
  • InSight Crime. Pachico (21 June 2011), Robbins (9 August 2019) and Shuldiner and Rosado (13 February 2023) were read in full.
  • Chile. Muñoz Bravo's presentation for the Ministerio Público's observatory (OAS/CICAD, August 2018), the slides headed "Ejemplo: Creepy"; the customs notice of 3 January 2018; the World Drug Report 2026 statistical annex, table 8.1, rows for Chile (cannabis herb and "MARIHUANA CREEPY", retail and wholesale, 2024).

Title and spellings

  • The title is the English spelling used by the studies and by most of the press, with the disambiguator because creepy is an ordinary English word; the bare word is not redirected.
  • Cripy, Cripi and Cripa redirect here. Each is used in at least one source cited on the page. Crippy was searched for and is not used by any source read, so it has no redirect.
  • Semana derives cripy from the English creepy. InSight Crime (2011) and a Costa Rican official quoted in 2023 tie the name to the marijuana's potency. No source dates the name's coining, and the infobox gives no meaning for it.
  • The first year in the infobox, 2011, is that of the earliest dated source on the page that uses the name (InSight Crime, June 2011, which cites an El Tiempo report not traced). Pachón's undated reportage may be as early.

Kind of page

  • A product name: the sources use creepy for a kind of marijuana and the hybrid plants grown for it, not for a population of plants with a history in one place. The interviewee in Cruz and Pereira (p. 58, n. 7), Cruz quoted by InSight Crime (2023) and Tunjano all call it a generic label. The page is not in Category:Legendary landraces.

Where the sources differ

  • When creepy arrived. The seed dealer interviewed in 2018 (Cruz and Pereira, pp. 57–58) dates the arrival of marijuana at La Quebradiza, in Corinto, to about 1980 and says that creepy also arrived there; the 1980 date belongs to marijuana, and the dealer gives no year for creepy. InSight Crime (2019) has the strains arriving from Europe in the early 1980s and spreading only in the 2000s. InSight Crime (2011) calls creepy a new strain. The CAPAZ brief and Cruz and Pereira (p. 85) place the seed and the boom in the early 2010s. The article gives each account with its source.
  • Patimorada. The interviewee of 2017 (p. 58, n. 7) names patimorada as the most common kind of creepy. Another interview quoted on p. 86 names patimorada with punto rojo among the native types that died out when creepy and feminised seed arrived. A Toribío grower told El Espectador in 2022 that patimorada, named for its stem colour, was the type most sown in the area; that account is on the Northern Cauca page. The article reports both statements from the book as they stand.
  • Speaker of the quotation on p. 86. The book introduces the quotation about feminised seed as Carlos Ramírez's and closes it with a citation to an interview with Alfonso López; the article does not name the speaker.
  • THC. Figures differ by source: up to 18 per cent (Pachón), 15 to 25 per cent (a neuroscientist quoted by InSight Crime, 2019). None comes from a published analysis of samples sold as creepy, so the article gives the 2019 figure attributed and no other.
  • Where the Chilean authorities place it. The customs notice of 2018, citing the observatory's report for 2017, says creepy is grown mostly in the Valle del Cauca; the Colombian sources place it in the department of Cauca. The article quotes the customs notice as it stands.
  • Price of 2015. Semana (2018), citing the Colombian Drug Observatory, says the rise of 45 per cent happened in 2015 alone; the Truth Commission, citing Semana, says "since 2015". The article follows Semana.

Not used, and why

  • The observatory's own reports for 2017 and 2021 could not be read. Press accounts of the 2021 report (Ex-Ante, Pauta, Emol) attribute to it a THC range for creepy, the date at which it was first flagged in Chile and its displacement of Paraguayan marijuana; none of these is used until the report itself is read.
  • El País (Cali), in a report on the fighting over marijuana in the north of Cauca, quotes a police officer giving creepy a THC content of 32 per cent and an addictive power seven times that of ordinary marijuana; a single unsourced official claim, not used.
  • InSight Crime, 20 January 2022, on maritime seizures of creepy in Chile, was read; its figures come from Chilean government and navy releases not read here.
  • Seed-bank listings. No seed seller's lot is sold under the name creepy in the accessions; the infobox finds none.

Wikipedia

  • The English and Spanish Wikipedia articles on cannabis in Colombia do not mention creepy, and no Wikipedia article covers the name.