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Evidentiary scope
No cocogenes.com listing under the name "Amulya Shillong" was found in the site lane's 38 candidate lines. The entire page rests on the forum lane: one saved document, a search of overgrow.com for "cocogenes" (doc coc_forums_resellers-0041, fetched 18 September 2026), which returns excerpts of two distinct posts naming the line. Neither post is itself a collection account — both are casual mentions in unrelated threads. Nothing here names a collector, a collection date or a place more specific than the line's own name. Tier A per the worklist, though the evidentiary base is thin; carried forward as given rather than re-graded here. Éloise 11:25, 23 September 2026 (+07)
Georeferencing
No coordinate, district or village is stated anywhere. The place entered, Shillong (locality) and Meghalaya (province), rests entirely on the line's own name — nothing in either forum post independently states a place. This is weaker grounds than a listing that names a place in its body text, and is flagged as such rather than treated as equivalent to one. Éloise 11:25, 23 September 2026 (+07)
Editorial treatment
- Accession ID.
COC-IND-MEG-0100000002. SameMEG/0000bucket as COC-IND-MEG-0100000001; this page takes serial0002, filed after the site-catalogue line since this page's only evidence is a forum mention rather than a Coco Genes listing. - Year — not taken from the 2024 post. A second forum post (vinu58ster, 30 April 2024, and a near-duplicate the same user posted 26 April 2024 in a different thread) lists "Shillong Selection 2020" among cultivars "given to me personally by cocogenes". This reads exactly like the "20XX Season" labelling Coco Genes uses on its own site, and it may well be this same line under a third name. But it is a forum member's own label, not a Coco Genes Season category on a saved cocogenes.com listing, and today's ruling on the ID year is specifically about "the site's Season category". Rather than stretch that ruling to a forum paraphrase, the ID keeps
0000and this is flagged for Éloïse: if the "2020" tag is accepted as equivalent to a site Season category, the ID would need to be reminted asCOC-IND-MEG-0120200002(or the next open serial in that bucket). - Alias. "Shillong Selection" is entered as an alias of this line on the strength of the same 2024 post pairing it with "Kerala Selection" and "Malana Selection" in a way that mirrors how the canonical name pairs a personal/marketing epithet with a place.
- Collector. Left blank. Both posts name Coco Genes as the supplier, not an individual collector.
Éloise 11:25, 23 September 2026 (+07)
Source discrepancies
- Name. Upstate (21 March 2021, Overgrow post #962, topic 13660): "a few Amulya Shillong, both from Cocogenes." vinu58ster (30 April 2024, Overgrow post #74, topic 147089; near-duplicate 26 April 2024, post #621, topic 144050): "Shillong Selection 2020". Both name Coco Genes as source and both point at Shillong; neither post cross-references the other name, and no source confirms or denies they are the same line.
Éloise 11:25, 23 September 2026 (+07)
Possible same-as: Meghalaya Khasi Hills
Coco Genes' own "Meghalaya Khasi Hills" listing on cocogenes.com names its own cultivar "Amulya shillong" in its body text. That is a direct textual link between the two pages, stronger than the shared place name alone: it raises the possibility that "Amulya Shillong" (this page) and Meghalaya Khasi Hills General Population are the same population under two names — the forum's shorthand for the product versus its full catalogue title — rather than two distinct lots. Against that reading: "Amulya" is a personal/marketing epithet, not a place, so its appearance in two contexts is not conclusive by itself, and no source directly equates the two listings. Not merged, per today's ruling; both accessions are drafted, cross-noted here and on the other page. Éloïse's call. Éloise 11:25, 23 September 2026 (+07)
Archived versions
overgrow.com could not be reached live this session (TLS handshake failure from this machine, the same class of local failure noted for therealseedcompany.com and khalifagenetics.com — not evidence the host itself is unreachable). The Wayback Machine holds no capture of either post's permalink. Both citations are therefore built from the post's own topic slug, topic ID and post number as recorded in the saved search-API response (doc coc_forums_resellers-0041) rather than a click-verified live or archived page; the quoted text itself is the exact "blurb" excerpt Overgrow's own search API returned for each post. Éloise 11:25, 23 September 2026 (+07)