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Talk:Pazyryk burials

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Pazyryk burials covers the five Pazyryk barrows in the eastern Altai with the hemp finds at their centre: discovery and excavation, the hemp-burning set of barrow 2 and its analysis, the dating of the barrows and the readings of the finds. The Pazyryk culture as a whole and the other frozen tombs of the Altai are outside it.
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Discussion

Sources

  • Rudenko (1970), Frozen Tombs of Siberia, the English edition of the excavator's account: the smoking sets, the vessels of barrow 2 and their seed, the flask on the six-legged frame, the fibres and the reading against Herodotus. Page numbers are not given in the citation.
  • Polosmak and Trunova (2006), Наука из первых рук 2006 (1): the two copper vessels of barrow 2, the birch bark on the cauldron's handles (quoting Rudenko 1953), the copper content of the charred seed held in the Hermitage and the copper-poisoning suggestion. It is a popular-science article by the analysts.
  • Novozhilova (2022), Известия Алтайского государственного университета 2022 (2): the discovery of the barrows in 1924 and the excavation of barrow 1 in 1929.
  • Dergachev et al. (2001), Radiocarbon 43: the relative tree-ring ages of barrows 1, 2 and 5 and the radiocarbon date of barrow 2.
  • Kuzmin et al. (2004), Radiocarbon 46: the three-laboratory dating of the barrow 2 tree-ring series and the 4th–3rd-century date of the Pazyryk-culture burials.
  • Ren et al. (2019), Science Advances 5, and Jiang et al. (2016), Economic Botany 70: the comparisons with Jirzankal and with the Turpan cemeteries.

Source discrepancies

  • Date. Art-historical comparison placed the barrows in the 5th century BCE; radiocarbon dating of barrow 2's timbers gives about 300 BCE (Dergachev et al. 2001) or 300–290 BCE (Kuzmin et al. 2004). Ren et al. (2019) give about 500 BCE. All are given in the article, each attributed.
  • Location. Ren et al. (2019) place the Pazyryk tombs in the Tuva Republic. The Pazyryk valley lies in the eastern Altai, two kilometres north of the Yan-Ulagan river (Novozhilova 2022), in the Altai Republic; the article does not repeat the Tuva placing.
  • The seed. Rudenko identifies it as Cannabis sativa "of the variety C. ruderalis Janisch"; Ren et al. call it morphologically wild. Both are given.
  • The leather pouch. A pouch with cannabis seed, coriander and yellow sweet clover is given in the article as Ren et al.'s report of Rudenko's publication.
  • Excavation of barrows 2 to 5. The sources cited give no year for Rudenko's excavation of the other barrows, so the article gives none.

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  • File:Cannabis-Pazyryk-barrow-2-hemp-set-drawing.jpg (lead), a drawing to be made: the hemp-burning set of barrow 2 as Rudenko and Polosmak and Trunova describe it, a small footed copper cauldron with two handles wrapped in bark, a rectangular copper dish on four legs, both holding fire-cracked stones and charred seed, and a six-legged frame of rods with a small leather flask tied to one leg.
  • File:Cannabis-Iron-Age-burial-sites-Central-Eurasia-map.jpg (Discovery and excavation), a map to be drawn: the same map is reserved on Yanghai Tombs and Jirzankal Cemetery, with four labelled dots at Yanghai, Jiayi, Jirzankal and the Pazyryk barrows and the dates given in those articles.