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Page scope

Cannabiogen is about the company and what it said about its seed lines. Lines held as seed have their own accession pages, and the article lists them.

Sourcing

The article rests on the company's own website, in archived captures from 2002 to 2022 and on the live site, on the Spanish mercantile register and on the ACE Seeds website. Every statement taken from the company's site is the company's own account and is attributed as such. Discuss attribution, independent sourcing and any claim that has lost its attribution here.

Discussion

When the seed business began

The site gives no founding year. The attested dates are separate and do not settle it:

• the earliest archived pages of the site, of 12 February 2002, already sell seed;
• the company was incorporated on 24 May 2002, the date that the company-information services Iberinform, Empresia and Infoempresa all give;
• the company's 2013 Pakistan Chitral Kush listing says work on that line began in the Iberian peninsula in the mid-1990s;
• the site's "twenty years" of collecting travel is the same figure in 2002 and in 2016 ("more than twenty years"), so it does not date anything;
• a forum post of 2024 (Overgrow, 30 June 2024) gives the poster's own English translation of parts of an unpublished 2007 interview, which says members of a cannabis forum began planning a seed bank during 2001.

The infobox gives 2002, the year of incorporation and of the earliest archived site.

When seed sales ended

No source dates the end of seed sales. The home page in April 2021 still lists feminised Pakistan Chitral Kush seed; the home page in May 2022 offers only the Delta range. A forum post of 2 March 2022 (Overgrow) reacts to news that the company was closing down.

Relationship with ACE Seeds

The sources show three connections: ACE Seeds carried a Cannabiogen brand section in 2016; ACE Seeds sold Pakistan Chitral Kush and credited Cannabiogen with breeding it; and Cannabiogen's own forum carried a section for ACE Seeds lines in February 2010. Neither company's site says what the relationship was. Forum accounts describe it in incompatible ways, from joint work on lines to one company being an offshoot of the other. None of these is used.

ACE Seeds' Spanish text for Pakistan Chitral Kush, in its shop's product feed as archived on 27 February 2026, follows Cannabiogen's 2013 Spanish listing almost word for word, with "en la península ibérica" replaced by "por Cannabiogen". The live English listing no longer names Cannabiogen; the copy archived on 23 February 2024 does.

Who collected the Chitral seed

No company source says who collected the seed behind Pakistan Chitral Kush, where or when. Forum accounts disagree: one names one of the company's early breeders as the collector in the 1990s, another names a different person as its source, and a third, relaying a social-media post, says Cannabiogen only reproduced the line.

Sand Storm

• The 2002 page headed "RESUMEN SOLICITUD DE PATENTE EUROPEA" gives no application number, filing office or date. No source says whether an application was filed or granted.
• The codes CHK1984 and ST1998-1 are not taken as dates.
• "Arabene" is the site's spelling and is quoted as written.
• A retailer's listing dates Sand Storm to 1998, and a strain database credits it with second place in the outdoor category of a 2005 cannabis cup, while the same database's results page lists the entry under another entrant. Neither is used.

Personal names, trademarks and activity codes

• Personal names. The register names the company's officers and the site names a sales contact; forum posts name people they describe as founders or breeders. None is used: they are private individuals, and the company published the sales contact only as a contact.
• Trademarks. A company-information service lists the statuses of trademarks for several line names. They come from that service, not from the Spanish trademark office's records, and are not used.
• Activity codes. The company-information services give two different activity codes (4611 and 4674), which are not used.
• The site's 2026 "About us" page is unaltered placeholder text from a website theme and is not a source.

Title

Three entries in the Boletín Oficial del Registro Mercantil (26 November 2012, 7 May 2014 and 10 December 2018), all on the same registry sheet, record the company's office moves and its change of name. The company-information services give a tax number that matches the one the live legal notice of cannabiogen.com gives for CBG Designs S.L. The wiki does not reproduce the tax or registry numbers of a company still trading.

The early site used CannaBioGen and the abbreviation CBG; the company's registered name is now CBG Designs S.L. CannaBioGen and CBG Designs redirect here.